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better public goods = better money]]></description><link>https://www.paulglavin.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L5qj!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72dcd134-7b76-40e3-89d1-72f7caa5e4aa_1170x1170.jpeg</url><title>Paul2</title><link>https://www.paulglavin.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Sun, 03 May 2026 10:47:41 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.paulglavin.com/feed" rel="self" 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url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGFZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F943ff36c-b776-4408-b299-4b4486c2ada5_2950x1406.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGFZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F943ff36c-b776-4408-b299-4b4486c2ada5_2950x1406.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGFZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F943ff36c-b776-4408-b299-4b4486c2ada5_2950x1406.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGFZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F943ff36c-b776-4408-b299-4b4486c2ada5_2950x1406.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGFZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F943ff36c-b776-4408-b299-4b4486c2ada5_2950x1406.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGFZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F943ff36c-b776-4408-b299-4b4486c2ada5_2950x1406.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGFZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F943ff36c-b776-4408-b299-4b4486c2ada5_2950x1406.png" width="1456" height="694" 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategyproofness">wikipedia rabbit hole</a></strong>... I was truth-pilled. Truthful mechanism-pilled. And now it&#8217;s my go-to litmus test for spotting a well-functioning democratic system:</p><p><em>Are the respondents voting truthfully?</em></p><p>Try it on the low-hanging fruit first - &#8220;who do you think should be president of the United States?&#8221; Every 4 years, 100+ million US citizens lie on this question, voting for a candidate as a strategy to get their preferred outcome, not how they&#8217;d answer that question honestly.</p><p>This is a &#8220;known bug&#8221; in US democracy, and now we have tested solutions like <strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States">Ranked Choice Voting</a></strong> and <strong><a href="https://compdemocracy.org/">The Computational Democracy Project</a></strong>, which is also helping shape some of the democratic systems in web3 too. So far in the crypto world however, we&#8217;ve mostly spun up exciting new ways to fail that same test.</p><p>Take the most common decision-sourcing questions in crypto - &#8220;who should we fund?&#8221; and &#8220;how much should they get?&#8221; We have systems that source answers that look like the honest response of 1 or 2 heavy stakeholders made in a private chat, and ones that look like digital army warfare, measuring how many users or bots a project can get to take an action on its behalf.</p><div><hr></div><p>With so much money at stake, it&#8217;s not easy to build systems that beat this, but it&#8217;s relatively easy at least to understand what the system <em>should</em> do:</p><ol><li><p>Get voting weight to a diverse set of people that know and care about the topic.</p></li><li><p>Structure the prompt so voters have the most to gain by responding honestly.</p></li></ol><p>This, and all the other <strong>characteristics of a wise crowd</strong> as defined by James Surowiecki in <em><strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds">The Wisdom of the Crowds</a></strong></em>.</p><div><hr></div><p>For our median voting app, Adam and I imagined implementations like a web3 community choosing its annual marketing budget.</p><p>In a mean voting system where average value wins, respondents strategize to vote higher or lower than they believe, since this gives their vote more impact.</p><p>In a median vote where outliers are ignored, this doesn&#8217;t work - the only way your vote will influence an outcome towards your preferred outcome, is to state your preferred outcome.</p><div><hr></div><p>I&#8217;ll end by putting this in a nice, friendly triangular shape we know and love...</p><p><em>The Hierarchy of Needs for Democratic Systems</em>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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A better system also create a sense of meaning and belonging to members, so they treat the whole as their own.</p><p>In it&#8217;s highest form, democracy is the harnessing of collective intelligence.</p><p>The gumball machine effect... where showing enough people a picture and asking them to guess how gumballs are in the machine can get you pretty close to the answer...</p><p>the wisdom of the crowds...</p><p>emergence...</p><p>a higher order...</p><p>a sum far greater than its parts...</p><p><strong>a gateway to a new chapter in evolutionary biology.</strong></p><p>Because after all... you and me - we&#8217;re just a pile of cells. Trillions and trillions of them. Each acting in their own self-interest, inadvertently acting in the interest of a far greater collective by simply being themselves and doing what they do best.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.paulglavin.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">This Substack is reader-supported. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[It's Time to Lock veTokens Away Forever]]></title><description><![CDATA[An ante mortem on the embarrassing legacy of 2020's generation DAOs.]]></description><link>https://www.paulglavin.com/p/its-time-to-lock-vetokens-away-forever</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.paulglavin.com/p/its-time-to-lock-vetokens-away-forever</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2025 00:08:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1ZDM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ccaffb1-2c05-4ad1-8359-5919b4002dff_976x586.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote Escrow is DeFi&#8217;s most overblown flop: a failed tokenomics gimmick masquerading as a governance innovation, claiming to &#8220;align long-term incentives&#8221; and &#8220;reward conviction,&#8221; but failing at every single property that makes those concepts meaningful, and more.</p><h2>What is Vote Escrow?</h2><p>In a few words: <strong>a voting weight multiplier for people who lock tokens.</strong></p><p>First, we need to establish that this is just one piece of a voting mechanism - the part responsible for determining how much voting weight each member in the community has.</p><p>To build a voting mechanism that includes Vote Escrow, you need to pair it with:</p><ul><li><p>Quorum (minimum voting weight needed)</p></li><li><p>Threshold (how much voting weight to pass?)</p></li><li><p>Delegation (can people assign voting weight to other people?)</p></li><li><p>Disputability &amp; Arbitration</p></li><li><p>Execution</p></li></ul><p>So when we talk about Vote Escrow, we&#8217;re really only talking about: <strong>how should we decide who has more influence in the community?</strong> Vote Escrow&#8217;s answer is: &#8220;People who locked more governance tokens away for longer.&#8221;</p><p>This seems reasonable until you remember <em>why</em> people wanted it this way in the first place.</p><h2>The Design Intent Shows Its Uselessness</h2><p>Vote Escrow of course wasn&#8217;t designed to solve governance problems. It was designed to solve price problems: &#8220;How do we prevent people from selling our tokens?&#8221;</p><p>The solution: convince them to lock tokens in exchange for voting power. If people can&#8217;t sell, circulating supply decreases, and theoretically, the number goes up. Vote Escrow proponents then made up the &#8220;aligned incentives&#8221; and &#8220;long-term conviction&#8221; narratives after the fact to make financial hostage-taking sound like a governance philosophy.</p><p>Of course this isn&#8217;t a governance design mindset at all. Real governance is about answering difficult questions like: </p><ul><li><p><em>How does a community allocate its shared resources most effectively?</em></p></li><li><p><em>How do we get decision-making power to the right people with the right context, and without a centralized authority dictating those terms?</em></p></li><li><p><em>How do we aggregate sentiment to effectively harness collective intelligence? </em></p></li><li><p><em>How do we make decision outcomes predictable so that the community can confidently plan for the future? </em></p></li><li><p><em>How do we prevent coordinated attacks while remaining open and accessible?</em></p></li></ul><p>If the starting point for your governance solution is &#8220;how do we pump the token price?&#8221;&#8230; you&#8217;ve failed before you even started.</p><h3>The Myth vs. Reality of Vote Escrow</h3><p><em>These are real quotes from real people (probably).</em></p><div><hr></div><p><strong>Myth: &#8220;</strong>this is a really hard governance problem we&#8217;re voting on. But I made a commitment when I locked my tokens, so it&#8217;s my responsibility to research this and get it right.&#8221;</p><p><strong>Reality: </strong>&#8220;damn I can&#8217;t believe I locked my tokens for 4 years. Ping me when we&#8217;re voting to pay out the veToken holders from the treasury.&#8221;</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>Myth:</strong> &#8220;hell yeah I love this community! It&#8217;s a privilege and an honor to lock my tokens up in the name of our shared mission.&#8221;</p><p><strong>Reality:</strong> &#8220;hmm it looks like if I click this button, I get 10x voting weight&#8230;&#8221;</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>Myth:</strong> if people lock their tokens, the token price will go up.</p><p><strong>Reality:</strong> it absolutely does not. </p><div><hr></div><p><strong>Myth:</strong> if people lock their tokens, everyone will be aligned on long-term success.</p><p><strong>Reality: </strong>lol&#8230; inmates in the same prison are really well-aligned too. I hear those are super collaborative spaces. </p><h2>Good News: There&#8217;s Already a Working Solution</h2><p>The tragedy is that the real solution for the problems Vote Escrow claims to solve already exists - <strong>Conviction Voting</strong> - which Vote Escrow is often confused with. </p><p>Over 5 years of experience with both mechanisms, I can confidently say Conviction Voting resembles veTokens about as much as Daft Punk Live at the Gorge sounds like the song your dryer plays when it&#8217;s done.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1ZDM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ccaffb1-2c05-4ad1-8359-5919b4002dff_976x586.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Conviction Voting is also just 1 piece of a greater voting mechanism, except this one isn&#8217;t about voting weight. <strong>Conviction Voting is the time component of a voter&#8217;s support for a specific proposal.  </strong></p><p>In a true Conviction Voting system, conviction grows on proposals to eventually meet support, and that time delay gives people in the community a chance to adjust their support or dispute abusive actions before bad decisions are executed.</p><p>The <a href="https://github.com/BlockScience/conviction/blob/master/social-sensorfusion.pdf">first principles of its design</a> are aimed at solving collective decision-making in a way that mimics other successful complex systems.</p><p>It also enables continuous signaling for decisions where community members can express ongoing preference. For certain types of decisions that don&#8217;t depend on a deadline, this helps reduce voter workload by not forcing deadline-based decision events on people.</p><h3>How Actual Conviction Voting works:</h3><ul><li><p><strong>Conviction grows on individual proposals.</strong> Since it&#8217;s not a voting <em>weight</em> system, conviction accumulates on support for specific proposals, not on global decision-making power.</p></li><li><p><strong>Conviction starts at zero and grows over time.</strong> When you support a proposal, your conviction begins at 0 and accumulates the longer you hold that support.</p></li><li><p><strong>No illiquidity required.</strong> Unstake your support on proposals whenever you&#8217;d like. They&#8217;re your tokens after all - don&#8217;t let someone try to convince you otherwise.</p></li><li><p><strong>Changing your mind still has consequences.</strong> Want to support a different proposal? You can switch, but your previous conviction decays over time and your new support starts again at 0. The effects of your prior beliefs linger.</p></li><li><p><strong>Pair it with any voting weight system. </strong>Still really want to make your community lock their governance tokens? Use a locked token multiplier with conviction voting, or try a healthier option like quadratic, fixed, or capped voting weight.</p></li></ul><p>Why does this work?</p><ul><li><p><strong>Time-weighting prevents abuse.</strong> The growth and decay curves naturally protect against common forms of gaming in DAOs:  last-minute vote swings, coordinated governance attacks, and orchestrated sudden shifts in sentiment, because the community can see upcoming outcomes before they&#8217;re executable and take action to change that outcome before it&#8217;s too late.</p></li><li><p><strong>It&#8217;s biomimetic.</strong> The mechanism mirrors electrical and biological systems that prevent surges and maintain stability amidst anomalies. Conviction Voting brings these successful temporal dynamics to governance.</p></li></ul><p>In this way Conviction Voting measures <strong>ongoing commitment</strong> and <strong>sustained preference</strong>. On the other hand, locked token voting multipliers are better measures of <strong>degen tendencies</strong> and <strong>short-sighted thinking - </strong>not the best traits to be rewarding with more decision-making power.</p><h2>How did we get here?</h2><p>The DeFi space fell in love with Vote Escrow because it was simple to understand and seemed to work for Curve. But &#8220;used by successful web3 projects&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;is a successful mechanism.&#8221;</p><p>What it did create was an entire secondary market of protocols that abstract away the locked positions through liquid wrappers so they can be staked for yield. <a href="https://outlierventures.io/article/vegood-vebad-and-veugly/">The ve-ecosystem has grown into a sophisticated workaround to a fundamentally broken design.</a></p><p>To make matters even worse, Vote Escrow punishes long term commitment by <em>depreciating your voting power over the time of your token lock</em>! So your voting power is the greatest in the minute you make the decision to lock, and then evaporates the longer you live with that decision. <strong>It&#8217;s quite literally the opposite of rewarding commitment.</strong></p><p>But at least it supports the price of the token, right?</p><h3>No!</h3><p>The charts for all the top veTokens (Curve, Balancer, Frax, Convex, PancakeSwap) all look tragically familiar:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jYZe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d777886-4831-4984-ac9d-b2f757b95a23_1658x780.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Turns out persuading people to lock their governance tokens doesn&#8217;t really do much to persuade <em>other</em> people that they should buy them.</p><p><strong>So for those of you keeping score:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Vote Escrow doesn&#8217;t measure commitment</p></li><li><p>Vote Escrow doesn&#8217;t align long-term incentives</p></li><li><p>Vote Escrow doesn&#8217;t sustain the price of a token</p></li></ul><h3>TL;DR</h3><p>It&#8217;s time to lock Vote Escrow in a dark place with its tokens and throw away the keys.</p><p>Migrate to Conviction Voting instead.</p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>